Watch Winder with CV5111 and WAR201E

  1. Lowey

    Lowey Aug 30, 2017

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    Hi Guys,

    Heres a strange one, so can anyone help, I have (luckily) two auto Tags, one is the WAR201E Carrera day date, the other is the CV5111 Panda face Heuer Heritage. The former is a Calibre 5 the latter a Calibre 17.

    Both spend 5 days in a dual watch winder yet the Heuer one "looses" around 5 minutes a day whereas the Carrera doesn't miss a beat.

    Now, if i take the Heuer one out of the winder and leave on side it keeps 100% perfect time to the second.

    Question, is the winder over winding it or under winding perhaps, why would this only be one of them and should I change the way it winds? It is set as follows:

    2mins clockwise
    6min rest
    2mins counter clockwise
    repeat for 12 hours out of each 24

    Any advice would be great, I was going to send back the panda face to tag under warranty as its only 4 months old but not having it in winder makes it function ok, the thing is its too expensive to wear daily at work so needs a winder.
     
  2. Hubert

    Hubert Aug 30, 2017

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    What winder to you have? I have all my automatics on winders (including some Calibre 17s) and don't see this behavior. Most typically gain time (run "faster"), while two actually lose time (run "slower).
     
  3. Lowey

    Lowey Aug 30, 2017

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  4. Hubert

    Hubert Aug 30, 2017

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  5. Newbie Collector

    Newbie Collector Aug 30, 2017

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    I have a similar issue with a Carrera 1887 on a Wolf Viceroy winder. I have never noticed an issue when I wear the watch several days in a row.
     
  6. Lowey

    Lowey Aug 30, 2017

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    I have not worn the watch today but took it to work and set it to my iphone and its keeping the time to the exact seconds, 100% perfect. When it spends a day or two in the winder it loses about two or three minutes
     
  7. Lowey

    Lowey Aug 30, 2017

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    Possibly I guess but the other carrera works fine in the winder and keeps perfect time. perhaps try the winder to different setting?
     
  8. Hubert

    Hubert Aug 30, 2017

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    Possibly. I have my winders set to rotate evenly on both directions based on timers. Maybe that may help?
     
  9. Lowey

    Lowey Sep 1, 2017

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    Hi Hubert,

    So to update, I had changed the winder to one direction for two minutes then rest for 6 only 12 hours per 24 hours. Before this I set the seconds and time to be exact. after a 24hour period it had not lost anything, in fact it was still to the second. and today the same.

    I had emailed tag who said it should be wound in a winder clockwise and anticlockwise for 800-1000 winds per day.

    I am going to try and replicate this as they are clearly the experts in this field!
     
  10. Hubert

    Hubert Sep 1, 2017

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    Exactly; try that and please keep us posted on your findings.
     
  11. Lowey

    Lowey Oct 1, 2017

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    Hey, so an update, I had changed the winder to be exactly has TH recommended, over the last two weeks the Heuer CV5111 has kept perfect time and the WAR201E had stopped around 8 times. On the days where I wore the WAR it stopped twice. Upon inspection (it has a exibithion back) if i slowly turn it round it gets stuck around 9 o'clock and won't move unless watch is flicked. So I think when in a the winder this seems to be the issue. Its only 4 months old so next week will send back to TH. bit disappointed for new 2k watch but I am sure they will resolve and will keep you posted.
     
  12. Hubert

    Hubert Oct 1, 2017

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    Thanks for the update. Keep us posted on the outcome.