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TAG Heuer Autavia Isographs Being Removed from the Market

  1. Jjspyder

    Jjspyder Oct 11, 2019

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    It will be interesting to see how the market will react when these are re-released without the Isograph. Guy said they underestimated the demand. I wonder if that demand will still be there without the Isograph.

    I think the Autavia Isographs that are out there will see a significant gain in value. I know several people that were planning on getting it. Guy said demand was strong. There is now a very limited number of these available. I met a well known vintage watch expert this weekend and he shares my thoughts that these will be highly sought after rare pieces.
     
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  2. grmontague

    grmontague Oct 11, 2019

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    Seems I’m one of the fortunate ones to have managed to get one (Blue on steel and purchased the brown leather strap as well). I’ve had it a few months now and have been very happy with it.

    I was a little concerned when it came to light that they were being removed but going by the article I should have nothing to worry about thankfully.
     
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  3. Jjspyder

    Jjspyder Oct 14, 2019

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    OK. I have some more info from inside sources. I heard the main issue with the Isograph in the Autavia was the unexpectedly high cost of producing the Isograph. It didn't make sense in a watch at that price point. I think we can still expect to see more Isographs, however, they will likely show up in more expensive watches. I think this info gives hope to the Autavia Isograph Flyback Chronograph.
     
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  4. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Oct 14, 2019

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    That’s really nice to hear. I feel fortunate I was able to get one from my AD with a 15 percent discount
     
  5. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 14, 2019

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    Never thought it made sense to put this in such an inexpensive watch, at least not so quickly...
     
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  6. dtf

    dtf Oct 14, 2019

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    Inexpensive...compared to a black bay? Suddenly the autavia looks very expensive when it has a regular calibre 5
     
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  7. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 15, 2019

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    Relatively inexpensive. Like say Louis Breguet invented the tourbillon and then immediately put it into his mid range pocketwatches... plus surely one reason to let it bleed down through the range from the top would be to monitor performance and slowly scale up the project in numbers sold?
     
  8. Yago

    Yago Oct 15, 2019

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    I did read a post from a forum member about the accuracy being all over the place.
     
  9. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Oct 15, 2019

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    Indeed we did.
     
  10. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Oct 15, 2019

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    That would be me with the accuracy. I emailed that same issue to TAG and asked if e watch can be regulated since it seemed fine on the wrist but was all over when off the wrist at rest. This was their Response:

    Thank you for your interest in TAG Heuer. For optimal performance your timepiece would need periodic manual winding. When it has stopped you would wind your crown in a clockwise rotation without pulling it out. 40 revolutions of the crown should provide you a full power reserve of around 40 hours.


    If your timepiece has not been worn for a day and is still running we would recommend winding it in the same way, about 20 times to top off your power reserve. Your timepiece has an accuracy of around -4/+6 seconds per day.


    If following these instructions does not improve performance, please reply to this email with an image of the back of your timepiece where the serial number is clearly visible and an image of your original receipt of purchase.


    You can also contact us at (866) 260-0460 for additional assistance. Our offices are open Monday through Friday, 9AM to 6PM, Eastern Standard Time. We will be happy to assist.



    Best Regards,



    LVMH Watch & Jewelry USA
    966 South Springfield Avenue
    Springfield, NJ 07081
    OFFICE 866.260.0460

    FAX 973.556.1452




    I did an experiment and left the watch on for 48 hours straight including sleeping (I never wear a watch sleeping). And doing that the watch is +5. but off the wrist depending on position it’s all over. But wearing it it isn’t+5. So it is ok in their eyes I guess.
     
  11. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Oct 15, 2019

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    So your request was about the accuracy being all over the place and they reply with "this is how you wound your watch" ??? :D

    May I ask how you phrased your question to them?
     
  12. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Oct 15, 2019

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    I don't think it would have mattered as the reply was probably just a cookie cutter reply and the question would not have been read by anyone that understood it, anyway.
     
  13. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Oct 15, 2019

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    Here is a copy and past of my email to them:



    Reference of the item : WBE5110 Date of purchase : 11/09/2019

    Question : Good Evening, I purchased a new Autavia Isograph on September 9, 2019 from my local authorized dealer. It is not keeping time within COSC Chronometer certification (certification number that came with the watch is S1000923). I wear the watch for 12-16 hours straight and will gain 4-5 seconds. However overnight when the watch is resting, it gains significant time. Placed on its back, the watch will gain up to 8 seconds in about 8 hours. If the watch is rested on its side, depending on which side, it will gain 3 seconds crown down and crown up it will gain 5 seconds overnight (about 8 hours), Face down overnight the watch will gain about 6 seconds overnight. I set the time 24 hour ago as of writing this and have worn it all but 7 hours and I am a +12 seconds. Is this something that can be fixed/regulated under warranty to bring this into the COSC Chronometer specs advertised?
     
  14. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Oct 15, 2019

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    so I felt this was a canned response. I doubt they understood the issue. So I actually followed their instructions. No change. But I did the 48 hour experiment on my wrist and since it was only +5 per day I guess it’s within COSC specs. I was under the impression COSC was for multiple positions. But maybe I’m wrong
     
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  15. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Oct 15, 2019

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    Chronometre certification tests multiple positions, five I think. So I dont think your watch is OK just because you dont wear it overnight
     
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  16. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Oct 15, 2019

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    I kind of thought that which is why I emailed them. But I guess I’m and “underwinder” lol!
     
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  17. Yago

    Yago Oct 15, 2019

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    What's the point of having power reserve if you need to wear the watch for accuracy? ::confused2::
     
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  18. Remo

    Remo Oct 15, 2019

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    COSC tests for multiple positions. But they wind the watches everyday: "Every day, including weekends, the instruments are measured and wound." The accuracy might well depend on the Mainspring, which might give more force on the movement while fully wound. Because of this, the advice from Heuer could make sense, to wind the watch. It would also explain, why accuracy changes if not worn.
    Find more Details here: https://www.cosc.swiss/en/certification/methods-measurement
     
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  19. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Oct 15, 2019

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    Thanks for the link! I totally see your point and it makes sense. Also makes Tag’s advice make much more sense.
     
  20. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Oct 15, 2019

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    Thanks for the kind words :thumbsup:
     
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