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TAG Heuer Autavia Isographs Being Removed from the Market

  1. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Sep 26, 2019

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    Doesn't COSC test for that though...
     
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  2. OttoWilliam

    OttoWilliam Sep 26, 2019

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    Sad sad sad news for me.

    I've been looking forward to try this new technology for a while now.

    It was suppose to be my first antimagnetic watch.

    Gosh what a let down.
     
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  3. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Sep 26, 2019

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    Exactly that. Maybe this is the big issue with the watches, once the movement are back at Tag and get cased something changes. I was under the impression the movement gets tested, not in the final case at COSC. I also read somewhere (don’t remember where) that an early delay was they were having trouble passing COSC certification.
     
  4. Jjspyder

    Jjspyder Sep 27, 2019

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    I am really curious how many of the Isographs are floating around in the wild. There are 2 AD's in my area. I think they each only received one and I'm not sure they sold before they had to send them back.
     
  5. Yago

    Yago Sep 27, 2019

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    Probably not too many. I contacted a couple of ADs and most hadn’t received any and the rest shipped them back. Everything’s on pre-order now for 2020. Also only the black and blue steel watches made it to the market apparently. No word of any steel bezel or bronze watches.
     
  6. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Sep 27, 2019

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    My AD is a small family owned regional jewelry store. They have 8 location in the area. Between all stores they only received one. And they has to bring to my local store from another one for me to purchase. They had no others and when I purchased mine they had no idea when they were getting another one. I see why now! Lol
     
  7. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Sep 27, 2019

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    Really paid attention yesterday. Wore it for just shy of 16 hours. Put face up for 10 hours until this morning. +13 seconds over that time.
     
  8. abrod520

    abrod520 Sep 27, 2019

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    LOL. My thoughts exactly.... but I doubt TAG will ever see the error of their ways
     
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  9. Remo

    Remo Sep 27, 2019

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  10. OttoWilliam

    OttoWilliam Sep 27, 2019

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  11. Yago

    Yago Sep 28, 2019

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    That won’t be it. Software and writing materials are in different classes than watches. Only if Isograph would be protected in the watches class it would constitute an issue. This is the first thing marketing guys check.
     
  12. Yago

    Yago Sep 28, 2019

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    Also, the new Autavia's on TH's website, to be released next year, not only have 'automatic' on the dial iso Isograph but they also make no mention of the carbon hairspring under the technical bit. These will for sure have the standard Sellita calibre 5 movement.
     
  13. OttoWilliam

    OttoWilliam Sep 28, 2019

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    But all in all you're saying there's a chance that even it is doesn't say "isograph" in the dial, it will still be carbon hair spring technology inside the movement, right ?

    If that is the case, then it is good enough for me.

    What would totally kill my interest is, if they decided not to use this carbon hair spring and just put calibre 5 in it. Elabore grade :(
     
  14. Yago

    Yago Sep 28, 2019

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    There’s always a chance. I don’t think it’s very high but who knows :)
    Certainly everything’s pointing in the direction of a standard hairspring, although in a cosc calibre 5. At least for the initial 2020 release.
     
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  15. HeuerLondon88

    HeuerLondon88 Sep 28, 2019

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    I’ve been told the Autavia will be “re-released” early next year, with a standard Calibre 5 movement. There will be a price reduction of a couple hundred pounds (will still have a RRP of a few hundred £s more than the Carrera Calibre 5) and that is it. The carbon hairspring will not be used as there is difficulty in keeping the frequency when paired with the Calibre 5. This is why there is no issue with the Nanograph as it has been used with TAG Heuer’s in-house movement.
     
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  16. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Sep 28, 2019

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    Just as I received notification of this post, I was on Tags site. The interesting thing is when you go to “model features” on all other watches it states the caliber movement (e.g. Calibre 5 Swiss made). But when you search and pull up the Autavia, it simply states “Automatic Swiss Made Chronometer”. But states a power reserve of 38 hours. So that does absolutely fit the Calibre 5 idea.

    I definitely see the difficulty in keeping the frequency with my watch. It’s kind of all over the place.

    I wonder if they will regulate my current with the carbon hair spring, replace the movement, or want to take my watch and either replace it or refund it.
     
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  17. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Sep 28, 2019

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    Thanks for the info. So sticking to some earlier complaints about the price being higher than the Tudor Black Bay... now we will have a pricepoint about the same as the Black Bay but with the standard lowest grade Sellita movement ::facepalm2::
     
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  18. Yago

    Yago Sep 28, 2019

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    I had a blue Isograph reserved for the past two days, probably the last in the wild, but just decided to pass on it. Very hard decision as the Isograph has grown on me. The detailed photos of DCs article, not in the least the case finishing and that beautiful textured dial, really sell the watch. The main reason for passing is the issue with the accuracy of the movement. It would be nice to have a watch with the carbon hairspring, and one of probably only a few hundred Isographs, but if the accuracy is messed up, then what's the point, right? I do know I won't be swayed by the standard calibre 5. I have the Carrera with that movement and I like it a lot but there's no point having another one. I do think the sweeping central arrow seconds hand must be a treat to behold. I hope they bring a GMT next year. That might change the matter.
     
  19. Yago

    Yago Sep 28, 2019

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    I read in various articles they use upgraded parts to pass COSC testing.
     
  20. jdcdpm52

    jdcdpm52 Sep 28, 2019

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    I’m wearing mine right now. And looking down at it...it’s a beautiful piece. The finishing pops. Especially in the sun. The dial is like no other. And yes...the second hand is mesmerizing!