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  1. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Mar 9, 2020

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    Louis Vitton Tambour Curve Flying Tourbillon..... pretty special!
     
  2. scooby-wrx

    scooby-wrx Mar 9, 2020

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    Keep seeing Breitling's in this thread so looked at a few models and seriously can't believe how similar the Navitimer B01 Chronograph 43 is to the Tag Heuer Pilot I have my eye on at the moment..

    I personally would never buy a Breitling especially not over a Tag but this is shocking..! I realise there are a lot of similar models from different manufacturers, but wow!

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  3. kappa_md

    kappa_md Mar 9, 2020

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    and we know why LV now has tourbillon ::popcorn::
     
  4. kappa_md

    kappa_md Mar 9, 2020

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    We all know LVMH watch division has three tier watch brands.

    Entry Avant Garde tier - TAG Heuer
    Mid tier - Zenith
    High Luxury tier - Hublot

    In terms of quality and workmanship (irregardless of the price and marketing) are there any differences among the three?

    They have different watch making factories. But are the quality checks the same?
     
  5. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Mar 9, 2020

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    Need to give credit to Breitling on this one. The Navitimer was first introduced in 1952, while the Heuer Pilot came out in 1983.
    https://www.calibre11.com/heuer-tag-heuer-pilot/

    If you think the Pilot is similar, this Sinn is even more of a copy cat to the Breitling Navitimer. :eek:
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  6. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Mar 9, 2020

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  7. Ara

    Ara Mar 9, 2020

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    Hahahaha. This visual metaphor still cracks me up.
     
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  8. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Mar 10, 2020

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    Yes but the story around Breitling and the 903 is kind of cool though. Not really a copy cat as in someone who just stole a design.
     
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  9. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Mar 10, 2020

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    Yup, that Helmut Sinn was one shrewd guy. Not only did he finagle the Heuer Bundeswehr deal, he similarly attained the rights from Breitling for the Navitimer's design. Striking these deals when Heuer and Breitling were at their weakest during the Quartz Crisis era. I'm sure it must bug the heck out of both Breitling and TAG Heuer that Sinn has legitimate rights to produce watches so similar to their iconic designs.
     
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  10. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Mar 27, 2020

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    Edited Mar 28, 2020
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  11. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Mar 28, 2020

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    Yeah that one looks amazing, but dont tell anyone I said that :D
     
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  12. imagwai

    imagwai Mar 28, 2020

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    Agreed, although 41mm would take it a bit far outside my sweet spot of 38-39mm. Still, it doesn't look too chunky and lugs don't look mega-long.
     
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  13. Nonsense

    Nonsense Mar 28, 2020

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    ... but they are. 51mm L2L.

    Greg
     
  14. imagwai

    imagwai Mar 28, 2020

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    Oh, that isn't good then. Didn't look it from the photo.
     
  15. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Mar 28, 2020

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    Not sure what you mean. Official site says it's 41mm in diameter and 20mm lug width.
    https://www.breitling.com/us-en/watches/premier/top-time/A23310121G1/
    Price is reasonable too, because it uses the Valjoux 7753 rather than Breitling's in house movement.

    EDIT: I get it now, the length is 51mm, so that is longer than I'd prefer. The height is a bit chunky too. I certainly would want to try this on the wrist before buying. This article has a bunch of wrist shots: https://www.fratellowatches.com/new-release-breitling-top-time-returns/
     
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  16. Ara

    Ara Mar 28, 2020

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    So much yes. Can’t believe I like a 2nd Breitling.
     
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  17. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Apr 16, 2020

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    Over to Jim
     
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  18. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Apr 16, 2020

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    I will not get into it. Good night.
     
  19. Hubert

    Hubert Apr 17, 2020

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    This one's a winner, right?
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  20. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Apr 17, 2020

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