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OT: The struggles of McLaren-Honda

  1. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Oct 25, 2015

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  2. Hubert

    Hubert Oct 25, 2015

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    Yes, absolutely! This will be analyzed and remembered.
     
  3. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 26, 2015

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    That video cuts out the best bit, Paddy Lowe from Mercedes giving Nico the "You've got a serious chewing out coming" death stare afterwards:



    He also finished off most of his champaign on the podium so at the post race conference he's just going off at Lewis about him hitting him being unacceptable, and the individual post race interviews he's rambling drunk.
     
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  4. TheKomoman

    TheKomoman Oct 26, 2015

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    I can't bear to watch the podium interviews so stopped my DVR just before the hat toss. Fortunately hadn't deleted so was able to go back and see it in all its 1080p glory and that death stare from Paddy was my second biggest take away from it, aside from the obvious enabling of Rosberg's nearly-ever-present petulant child mode. I did also see some tweets where he was out partying with the team and doing karaoke so at least he didn't sit in his room and sulk but you do have to wonder what discussions are taking place in the background. He's a very good number two but as is usually the problem he thinks he's a number one and that means he'll likely be looking for a ride for 2017.

    Edit to add Bon Jovi...

    https://twitter.com/McLarenKaren22/status/658562296625557504
     
  5. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 26, 2015

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    I think he'll have a hard time getting a ride anywhere else, he's currently on 10M which is almost double all of the Redbull/Toro Rosso guys combined, yet I don't see him having the potential of any of them. Both the Force India guys, especially Perez have really turned it up, and you've got Grosjean, KMag, and Stoffel Vandoorne in the wings, not to mention button talking about 2017. I think we've got more talent coming up now than at any point in the past, and with that guys like Kimi and Nico are going to have to start justifying their salaries or be replaced by younger and hungrier drivers.
     
  6. TheKomoman

    TheKomoman Oct 26, 2015

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    Agreed all around except when you take into account what Gene Haas has said repeatedly about not being able to afford a rookie driver as a new team next year you can see a place for him. But guys that won't trash your stuff don't get paid 10M so perhaps we find out how much of a passion for race car driving Nico truly has when that time comes.

    But then hey, assuming Paddy doesn't throw him out because he's tired of his crap he's going to be in a car that will be at the sharp end of the grid again next year. If the Merc turns out to be the fastest again, and there's every likelihood it will be, all it will take is a bad run of luck for Lewis and Nico could have a World Championship. Maybe that's worst case for Mercedes.. cue the irony hashtag!
     
  7. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Oct 26, 2015

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    The other hope is that Lewis and Nico could take enough points out of each other to bring Seb to the front as happened with Kimi 2007, Ferrari clearly are backing themselves for 2016 and think the title shot is on and Mercedes are closer to the point of diminishing returns.

    Then there's also Fernando's optimism, when you consider how crippling the ERS issues are on the Honda now, they were doing decently yesterday until Fernando had a reliability issue with a sensor. With 20+ hp from the latest upgrade on the ICE the claims made about not being far behind Ferrari become very realistic, and with the amount of engineers Honda are throwing at the ERS issue I think we can assume it'll be sorted for 2016. An even stronger chassis, with an ICE on par and a fixed ERS with two very hungry WC drivers could be something rather special next year.
     
  8. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 14, 2015

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    After second engine boom in 24 hours... :(

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  9. Hubert

    Hubert Nov 15, 2015

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    :( So sad; can't get a break.
     
  10. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Nov 15, 2015

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    I never know about Alonso. He "says" and is quoted saying all the right things, but why would you do something like this? I get that he is frustrated, but so is his team
     
  11. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Nov 15, 2015

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    Check out the hashtag #PlacesAlonsoWouldRatherBe on Twitter image.jpeg
     
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  12. TheKomoman

    TheKomoman Nov 15, 2015

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    I saw this one right after seeing the original and still think it's the best one.

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  13. Hubert

    Hubert Nov 15, 2015

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  14. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Nov 15, 2015

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    Shot from a better angle of Fernando winking at the camera with the TAG Heuer logo on display, totally needs to go on one of those #Dontcrackunderpressure ads, the man is missing quali after a second engine blew and chilled on a lawn chair
     
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  16. Hubert

    Hubert Nov 16, 2015

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    WOW. Huge news. Great post!
     
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    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Jan 19, 2017

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  20. dsio

    dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 19, 2017

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    The same reason they wrote "Pedro" (Pedro De La Rosa), that orange car is the MP4-21 from 2006 in the orange testing livery that McLaren also used in the late 1990s.
     
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