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New Monaco Bamford vs. Audi Sport Lemania

  1. THJunkie

    THJunkie Nov 3, 2018

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    To be fair the Bamford is not a bad looking piece. And I imagine ‘in the flesh’ it has more depth to the design adjustments than the photos do justice.

    The deployant strap looks nice with a carbon finish clasp. Big step up from the standard Tag tin and strap.
     
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  2. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Nov 3, 2018

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    I've changed my mind. Knowing there's a likely possibility of the Audi Sport being owned by an actual Group B racing driver changes everything. I'd keep the Audi Sport, with the hope of one day being able to sleuth out the origin of the watch.
     
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  3. ghostdriver

    ghostdriver Nov 3, 2018

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    Im no watch afficionado but id have to agree with your comments. In the flesh its stunning and the depth is prominant. Pictures scale it wrongly from certain angles and dont pick up the features as nicely. Its really really nice. Can see it becoming highly sought after, once people see them for real.
     
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  4. ghostdriver

    ghostdriver Nov 3, 2018

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    I only wanted the watch after seeing a feature in an Audi Tuning magazine earlier this year. Thought I had to get one to go with my Audi Ur Quattro, made some enquiries and a few months later boom, got a call to say one had been sourced. Just pure luck.
     
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  5. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Nov 3, 2018

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    The two watches are really so different, it's hard to compare. Love it or hate it, the Bamford gives a very unique visual statement that's sure to attract attention. Most won't even notice the Audi watch on your wrist or know of its vintage motorsport heritage (I didn't, just thought it was a marketing thing, like the Senna or Aston Martin watches). But for an Audi enthusiast/racing fan, the Sport Lemania is the one to have!
     
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  6. ghostdriver

    ghostdriver Nov 3, 2018

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    Spot on. If you know, you know kinda thing, and that is cooler than anything flashy.
     
  7. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Nov 3, 2018

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  8. THJunkie

    THJunkie Nov 3, 2018

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    Both are nice in different ways. Only one is special, has a real history and can’t really be recreated. The other can be recreated quite easily upon request.
     
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  9. THJunkie

    THJunkie Nov 3, 2018

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    Shame about the tacky ‘checkerboard/grid flag’ graphics. The strap and most if the dial is quite nice. Personally I’d rather that the hands matched the stitching on the strap.

    I think I have figured out the issue (in my mind at least), with many of these BWD frankenwatches, the outer dial (seconds markers) being circular and very flat rather than applied, only work in contrast to the square case in a limited range of colour matched pairings. Few stark contrasts work well. It is those with a better balance of gradiation or subtle contrast which work - and TH already produced those. Few of the BWD options compare. Maybe they should have a go with the Carerra Cal 17 as that has more depth to the watch face to play with. Monaco’s dial is not the best. It is the square case novelty that makes it. So within the case, subtly and co-ordination is the key - not bold contrast. Which works a lot better aesthetically on the Carrera. Tis what they’d need to to get my money anyway. So far I’d rather buy a stock watch and burn the difference!

    To add: i’d also prefer if the Bamford logo was on the caseback. IT is horologically meaningless. I’ve a (personal) distaste for any brandingnon a watch face other than the ‘core’ maker. There’s far too much writing on the dial, and the logo is meaningless. AMG don’t put their sig on the bonnet. Only the arse end.

    OMO.
     
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  10. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Nov 3, 2018

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    I don't mind the chequered flags and Vintage Heuer explains why they are there.

    With the BWD configurator you can choose to remove the BAMFORD test from the dial by just specifying no text. It is certainly what I would do if I were to ever go down that route (which is highly unlikely).
     
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  11. THJunkie

    THJunkie Nov 3, 2018

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    Vintage looks fine on vintage. And I’m probably ignorant of the background and talking accordingly. But a Bamford is not vintage and all vintage designs were not equal. It is a fussy bit of detail that detracts (imho) from the legibility and makea rhe watch look gimmiky. If I wanted flags i’s simpy buy the vintage.

    I’ve had a play with the BWD configurator on a number of occasions. Have almost pulled the trigger on an orange monstrosity more than once. On each occasion I asked my wife which looked nicer - config or next in line Omega on my wish list - and my money went to Omega on bith occasions.

    Granted there’s no accounting for taste - but belive me, I’ve coveted the Monaco design for 25 years and not been able to afford one. Now I have one and love it, I’d love another - eapecially a rarity in a bespoke deaign - so i’d not bat an eyelid dropping £10k+ on the ‘right’ config. Only two bar the one I have I like so far are the standard Gulf (asthetic only) complication is meh and the ‘24’ Cal 36 which looks significantly different and to me at least has a fantastic industrial design. I sincerely wish TH would yeild a ‘high end’ Monaco case design with some inderesting details. I can see why they’ve partners with BWD and I’m sure the execution is high quality. But their limited range of pick and mix colours I find boring. I wish TH would spice it up a bit. Why not a better calibre in a PM case with a dial face with some applied depth? I’m just frustrated I guess. I’ve no ‘hate’ for either Tag or BWD, simply frustration that between them they can’t make another Monaco I want to buy. odd since Tag can churn out seemingly dozens of bland 01 Carreras!
     
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  12. ghostdriver

    ghostdriver Nov 4, 2018

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    Do you think? Not so sure if BWD have the resources or technical expertise to make a forged carbon case themselves hence why Tag did it?
     
  13. ghostdriver

    ghostdriver Nov 4, 2018

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    Not gonna lie, I love the look of the Bamford with the colour but im not a watch connoisseur so I suppose the appeal of the watch is not meant to be subtle.
     
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  14. dtf

    dtf Nov 4, 2018

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    Can you share the article on the Audi sport?
     
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  15. ghostdriver

    ghostdriver Nov 4, 2018

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    Sure here you go. This is what made me want one. One of your other forum members cc1971 (also into Audi's asked the magazine to feature the watch).
     
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  16. heuerholic

    heuerholic Nov 4, 2018

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    If you are ever thinking of parting with the Audi, let me know as I am currently searching for one for my collection and would be interested in purchasing it.

    I’ve seen the bamford in the metal (carbon) and although not a Bamford fan , was impressed with the watch. Thought about getting one but decided it wasn’t for me.

    PM me if you ever get sick of that Audi:)
     
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  17. THJunkie

    THJunkie Nov 4, 2018

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  18. OttoWilliam

    OttoWilliam Nov 4, 2018

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    Tough choice. Really tough choice.

    But if it was me, i would go for Monaco Bamford.

    Cheers.
     
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  19. ghostdriver

    ghostdriver Nov 5, 2018

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    Yes, weird how no reference to the Sport Heuer was made. As for the car, well....haha, the ultimate road rally car. Even today a Ur quattro would keep up with a manual golf R. Theyre that good. Will have to ruin this thread and post some dyno vids of mine in a few months. Lol.
     
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  20. Yago

    Yago Nov 5, 2018

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    Loved the Bamford straight away and still do. The Audi is super nice but also super expensive, many similar tool watches around with the same movement. Tough to beat the Orfina PD. Nonetheless the Audi will probably always be on my list but right now I'd go for the Bamford. Purely based on emotion, not value.
     
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