hi, just dropping by here, im really interested with the new Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 02 tourbillon, i never thought that i want a tourby, but since the heuer 02T is so "reasonably" priced, now i'm really thinking to get one of them. i believe the MSRP is US$ 15000 for the non limited model, and US$ 20000 for the limited all black tourbillon. I'm not a watch expert, im just normal watch hobyist . i own several G-Shocks Gravity Masters , and Seikos Astron, i like their newer line up with techy GPS synchronised watches. i also have a Bell & Ross BR 01 watch, as the sheer size really attract me to it. and i'm quite a Panerai Addict, because i like big watches, as i have a big frame, so bigger watch makes me looked "slimmer" i dont know anything about Tag Heuer, i do own 1 Tag Heuer though, i remember i bought it when im still in high school, that time Tag Heuer Brand is very popular among youngsters, so i save my pocket money for a few years before i can get myself a 39mm Tag Heuer Professional 2000 series Quartz. i still have the piece today, but i seldom wears it because it's feel to small on my wrist. i tried to sell/ trade it away but the value is very low, so i think i better keep it as a collection. back to the subject, i have several questions for the watch aaffectionados here : -Why most pro watch affectionados "hated" Tag Heuer ? almost every single person that i know or met, that has branded collection of watches eg, rolex, AP, Panerai, etc bashes Tag Heuer, they say it's not worth to buy a Tag Heuer. To my knowledge , Tag Heuer do produced some exquisite expensive watches , like the Monaco v4, Monaco double tourby, etc. -Why Tag Heuer Resale Value is very bad compared to other luxury brand ? i mean, i know rolex is the king of resale value, but i sell and trade several of my Panerai before and i didn't lose much on them, infact some of them give me quite a profit. -will the resale value of the Tag Heuer Carrera Calibre 02T be bad as well ? i know that i can not buy a watch with intention to resale it for a profit in the future, but im quite hesitant if the watch that im going to purchase will drop it's value by more than 50% once i bought it. i was looking to get a new watch to add into my collection and 2 watches are on my mind right now, -Tag Heuer Carera Calibre 02 T Phantom, priced US$ 20.000 before discount (i don't know how much discount that the AD can normally give ? and i couldnt find one on sale on second hand market yet) or -Panerai Pam 187 SubZilla a sheer 47mm stainless Steel , special edition Panerai Diver with nice patina indices . priced around US$ 13-15000 on second hand market. which one is a better buy ? i really like the Pam 187 , but the thought of having a "swiss" tourbillon really temp me to get the TAG.