Guardian of Time London: Are they reputable?

  1. danowat

    danowat Mar 15, 2018

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    Yup, they told me the same thing when I said I wanted to come and collect the watch (which was funnily enough a Monaco too!), there was also another seller, Your Luxury Time, who was listed in London as well, but replied to my email in Cyrillic!
    I found a seller that actually had the watch (none of this, it's in the safe BS) at their storeroom and allowed collection, I wanted to see what I was buying before I brought it, IMO, any seller should allow you to press the flesh if you wanted too, I'm not even 100% convinced many of these sellers on C24 actually have the watches they list.
     
  2. MRC

    MRC Mar 15, 2018

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    Agree on both points. I rather suspect that many watch outlets, especially grey, work the way car dealers do. I ordered an new Audi from the local dealer and was told it would be three months. A week later got a phone call "Your car is here now, another dealer wanted a Porsche 944 we had in stock and they had the Audi in the right color, so we traded." Yes, it was long ago -- and colour was spelled that way there :whistling: So when a punter appears [Audio: Grytpype-Thynne "We've found a Charlie"] they phone or email around to find the actual goods.
     
  3. Lugduno

    Lugduno Mar 15, 2018

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    A member of a Swedish watch forum claimed Guardian of Time to be "100% reputable".

    I'm not saying you should trust them entirely based on this, but can be nice to read what some other forums have written.
     
  4. dtf

    dtf Mar 15, 2018

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    You should have bought the 944.
     
  5. MRC

    MRC Mar 16, 2018

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    Tried one and didn't fit -- I don't know why, I'm about 50 percentile in dimension. And it would have to spend as much time in the Logan airport parking lot than at our office or my apartment. What chance of finding it still there arriving back at 9pm on Friday night? Tried to buy an Audi Quattro but the dealer would not take one cent off the crazy price ($40k ! in 1982 IIRC).
     
  6. Graham57

    Graham57 May 20, 2018

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    Is it just me or is anyone else suspicious of this Guardian of Time. I have a friend who is Omega AD and he says they have 40%in Omega. This chap seems to be selling for -35% off. If you take the Chrono24 Trusted checkout fee off as well then how is that possible? Another poster said he wouldn’t give a VAT receipt which worries me as what if they are avoiding this? Could the watch be seized if fraud is found? Was looking at a Speedmaster 57 and seemed too good to be true.
    Mmmm
     
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  7. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member May 20, 2018

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    What some grey dealers could do is to source watches from outside the UK (maybe even claiming back the sales tax on export from the country the watch was bought in). If those watches were then imported into the UK but not declared, then no sales tax or import duties would be paid in the UK...which would mean no VAT receipt. You then compare their prices to the correct UK price which has VAT included and there is 20% price difference instantly.

    To be clear, I have no idea about Guardian of Time and how they source their watches, so the above is not a comment on Guardian of Time...just an example as to how a grey dealer could work the system. You should ask them straight out- they may well have a totally different way of achieving low prices (buying aged stock? lower margins?)
     
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  8. Graham57

    Graham57 May 21, 2018

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    Thanks for your explanation. All sounds a bit murky to me. I noticed other sellers give VAT receipts no problem though they are more like -20% not -35%. You roll the dice I suppose. Cheers
     
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  9. dtf

    dtf May 21, 2018

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    I find it interesting that the watch industry complains about the grey market, but pushes huge amounts of stock through it. It seems like the industry knows it can't move their desired amount of stock through ADs at rrp
     
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  10. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange May 21, 2018

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    Nail on the head you have hit.

    Produce less stock and reduce RRP = no grey market.
     
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  11. marcushogan37

    marcushogan37 May 21, 2018

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    Went with Montredo anyways and everything worked out perfectly!
     
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  12. OttoWilliam

    OttoWilliam May 21, 2018

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    I always think that if i known reputable grey market dealer here. The one that is establish with a physical store not just some rich bugger on social media that sells watch (that we have plenty), i might be able to afford more watch. Seriously, paying at retail price every time is getting more and more "taxing".
     
  13. Lugduno

    Lugduno May 21, 2018

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    As long as you do your homework in regard to the grey dealers I bet that everything is according to plan. Having a physical store definitely help with giving me more confidence in a dealer, to be able to walk in, talk to the sellers etc. I love going to the ADs and try the watches there, but paying the MSRP prices are not very tempting compared to the lower grey dealer prices.
     
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  14. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph May 21, 2018

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    My only real experience of this was Iconic Watches they have a proper shop and offer about 20% off. As far as I can tell what they do is buy from ADs in other countries exploiting the exchange rate. My watch came from an AD in Italy.
     
  15. OttoWilliam

    OttoWilliam May 21, 2018

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    The type of GD i would love to have here. But haven't yet found