Forums Latest Auctions Members
  1. abrod520

    abrod520 Mar 13, 2020

    Posts
    8,752
    Likes
    25,363
    The view I take: TAG have finally responded to the demand for watches that hew closely to what made them great in the first place. Why not buy at full price, from a TAG boutique or their website? If we can have them all sold out at MSRP, TAG will see the business case and perhaps continue releasing models like this.

    In other words, vote with your dollars!
     
  2. THJunkie

    THJunkie Mar 13, 2020

    Posts
    1,080
    Likes
    1,172
    Simply? Because I don’t think their full RRP are justified. But at 20% they are fair value. Only once did I pay full whack and that was for the Tele 18, only to see it a month later at 35% in an AD’s window. I expect heavy depreciation on Used, but you’d be mad to pay full price when market dictates that price is simply too high. I’m not talking about Gray market here. I’d personally never buy from that channel. No Carrera I own is worth £5k new. For that money I can get a Ceramic Speedy. The are £3.5 to £4k watches at best. I still love them though hence why i have 4, so I feel as if I provide ample financial support to TH and their official supply chain already.
     
    dtf and Jim Dollares like this.
  3. abrod520

    abrod520 Mar 13, 2020

    Posts
    8,752
    Likes
    25,363
    MSRP on those is $12,000 or so. You're comparing full MSRP to grey/secondary prices.

    Bought directly from TAG / AD, or secondhand though?

    IMO, the Carrera is worth MSRP at this point. It's got the in-house Heuer-02 rather than the Telemeter's crappy Sellita+DD microbrand-grade movement. It remains to be seen what kind of discounts are available on them after a few months or what they trade at on the secondary market, but I personally think it's worth $6,500 US.

    ...Of course, part of that is because I'm super impatient to get one on my wrist ;)
     
  4. THJunkie

    THJunkie Mar 13, 2020

    Posts
    1,080
    Likes
    1,172
    no read again. I already said no gray. I paid £5 and £5.7k for two out of three of the ceramic Of The Moons that I own. So yes MSRP is higher, but real BRAND NEW PRICE FROM AN AD that I paid was far far less. The market is what the market pays? Not fanciful MSRP.

    EXperience may very, but that’s mine.
     
    dtf likes this.
  5. THJunkie

    THJunkie Mar 13, 2020

    Posts
    1,080
    Likes
    1,172
    I’ll bet that I will pick up the h02 for <20% off. Probably a lot more. Simples. I already got one of my ADs on the case. They know I’ll not even discuss a watch with less that 15% off.
     
  6. dtf

    dtf Mar 13, 2020

    Posts
    1,481
    Likes
    881
    I think I got about 10% off when I bought a AR for my wife at an AD, would expect more on a higher value watch, as the margin will be higher.

    I hadn't realised that ceramic speedys are so reasonable, I tried I on a deep black seamaster, but it's going to have to be used, given theyre about £8.5k new!
     
  7. Hubert

    Hubert Mar 14, 2020

    Posts
    8,287
    Likes
    7,773
    Not counting the new Connected and the 160th anniversary, this is the only one so far that is really tempting for me.
     
    dtf and Nonsense like this.
  8. dtf

    dtf Mar 15, 2020

    Posts
    1,481
    Likes
    881
    Agreed, and I like the batman a lot better than the pepsi.
     
    Hubert likes this.
  9. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Mar 31, 2020

    Posts
    10,580
    Likes
    13,521
    With Patek and Rolex apparently holding all their new releases over until 2021, do we think TAG Heuer will do the same? Imagine if this would have happened last year with the whole Monaco thing running through the year...
     
  10. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Mar 31, 2020

    Posts
    7,010
    Likes
    14,156
    I don't think it's clear yet. Last I spoke to TAG Heuer, they were still working through the 2020 launch plan. No question that some model will be pushed back, but others look like they will arrive (e.g. the Carrera 160th). I'd assume that this is all based on things returning to "normal" over the coming weeks- at the moment, the offices and the factory are closed, with people working reduced hours from home.
     
    Jim Dollares likes this.
  11. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Mar 31, 2020

    Posts
    10,580
    Likes
    13,521
    Yeah I'm sure the ones that have been announced will arrive, but it does seem a little bit pointless (and perhaps a bit tasteless) to start announcing new stuff when the world has other things on it's mind and the ADs are all shut.
     
  12. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Mar 31, 2020

    Posts
    7,010
    Likes
    14,156
    It's a delicate balance. I'm sure the ADs that are still selling online are very keen for the stock to keep their businesses moving. Likewise, there are brands like Patek who for the first time are allowing online sales.

    But I agree with you 100% that the brands need to be very careful about pushing luxury/ lifestyle in a time when there is a global healthcare crisis. So far, the watch brands and luxury groups are highly attuned to the public sentiment and I hope that continues.
     
  13. abrod520

    abrod520 Apr 2, 2020

    Posts
    8,752
    Likes
    25,363
    The only way they'll be delivered is if they've already been manufactured - unless somehow they're still in production? Is Switzerland not locked down to essential businesses like others?
     
  14. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Apr 2, 2020

    Posts
    10,580
    Likes
    13,521
    You'd think so, after all doesn't Switzerland have the highest percentage of cases per capita?
     
  15. Hubert

    Hubert Apr 2, 2020

    Posts
    8,287
    Likes
    7,773
  16. imagwai

    imagwai Apr 3, 2020

    Posts
    4,125
    Likes
    4,429
    I do like the dial - nice shade of blue. 43mm, though, so it's a 'no' from me.
     
  17. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Apr 3, 2020

    Posts
    10,580
    Likes
    13,521
    Seriously think that might be my next watch...
     
    Remo likes this.
  18. abrod520

    abrod520 Apr 3, 2020

    Posts
    8,752
    Likes
    25,363
    Do they? Did not know that... anyway, I'm not expecting any of the watches I've pre-ordered to arrive on time.

    It'd be very tempting at 39mm, almost like an edgier GMT Royal Oak. They look huge in person though at 43
     
  19. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Apr 5, 2020

    Posts
    7,010
    Likes
    14,156
  20. Hubert

    Hubert Apr 7, 2020

    Posts
    8,287
    Likes
    7,773