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Calibre 11 x TAG Heuer Collaboration: Autavia Jo Siffert Collector's Edition

  1. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Feb 22, 2018

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    That’s a very unfortunate and unintended typo..sorry, didn’t even know I had quoted you!

    I expect there will be some movement/ give it a week or two and I reckon it will firm after that
     
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  2. Ara

    Ara Feb 22, 2018

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    Same here. First came the TH Carrera (black+rose gold CAR2014) in June 2016, then a TH Carrera re-edition (CV-2111) in Aug 2016, then a Heuer diver (980.021) off eBay and restored by the immortal James Hyman in early 2017, then a gold Heuer Camaro 73345 franken (bonehead mistake) in May 2017, then a mint Heuer Autavia 1163 with MH bezel + red cigar box, papers, with sticker on back (victory!) in Nov 2017.

    Sold the TH CAR2014 last month, and was dying to pick up the Calibre11 collector's edition, but my marriage might've been on the line if I bought another watch.



     
  3. Ottsby

    Ottsby Feb 22, 2018

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    Congrats on selling out in less than 24 hrs! That means you were doing something right! :)
     
  4. calibre11user

    calibre11user Feb 22, 2018

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    We have some work to do. :mad:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolb...he-cappuccino-speedy-is-next-up/#3d1a01644fb2

    It took a mere four hours and fifteen minutes for Omega to sell 2,012 limited-edition “#speedytuesday” watches last week that were offered exclusively on Instagram. The special-edition Speedmaster, the hero of the brand’s iconic collection, was geared to a group of devotees that follow the #speedytuesday hashtag, created by watch enthusiast Robert-Jan Broer of the Fratello Watches blog. The number of pieces produced is a tribute to the year 2012, when Broer started the #speedytuesday hashtag. The response was so immediate that Omega stopped promoting the watch on Instagram shortly after the campaign was launched. It was the first Omega watch officially sold online. The price was $6,500.

    Importantly, note that Omega advertised and sold the Speedy Tuesday edition on their website. TAG Heuer didn't do the same.
     
  5. Ottsby

    Ottsby Feb 22, 2018

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    And Omega still haven't finished delivering their watches, and their production has been mired with quality problems. No thanks!
     
  6. rafabond

    rafabond Feb 22, 2018

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    it is not the same to make 2,000 watches of new design, that 100 almost identical to an existing model
     
  7. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Feb 22, 2018

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    Oh come off it! How may Speedmasters to Omega make every year?

    And stop having digs at the Calibre 11 edition. You don't like it and that is fine. Nobody forced you to buy one so let it lie.
     
  8. Ottsby

    Ottsby Feb 22, 2018

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    New design? It has a different dial, and different engraving on the back?! If there ever was an existing model is in the 42mm Speedmaster that has looked more or less the same for over 50 years. I think only the Reverso and the Submariner can compete with a more timeless design.
     
  9. abrod520

    abrod520 Feb 22, 2018

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    It’s not confirmed that there are any undelivered Speedy Tuesday units at this point, and there were only a few isolated quality issues.

    The Speedy Tuesday does incorporate some very different parts than a regular-production Speedmaster Pro - the brushed case alone is a whole other thing to deal with. Not to put the C11 LE down, but it’s just a dial / hands color difference compared with the existing Autavia lineup.
     
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  10. Ottsby

    Ottsby Feb 22, 2018

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    I don't want to hijack the thread but why isn't it confirmed? I had mine delivered after Christmas, after 5 emails of excuses and 6 months of delay, only to have defects to the dial and Omega had to take it back. It is now back to waiting again.
     
  11. Hubert

    Hubert Feb 22, 2018

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    Don't forget the caseback, strap, and presentation box. ;)
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  12. calibre11user

    calibre11user Feb 22, 2018

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    Again, the key point is that Omega advertised and sold the Speedy Tuesday Limited Edition directly from its website. TAG Heuer did not do the same.

    Speedy Tuesday Limited Edition announced on Hodinkee: January 10, 2017
    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/t...wristwatch-dedicated-to-the-chronographs-soci

    Speedy Tuesday advertised on Omega social media: January 10, 2017
    https://www.facebook.com/omega/photos/a.134459127210.106284.90884717210/10154749428252211/?type=3
    https://www.facebook.com/omega/videos/10154750139957211/

    Calibre 11 Limited Edition announced on Calibre 11 and Hodinkee: February 21, 2018
    https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/t...ert-collectors-edition-calibre-11-introducing

    Calibre 11 Limited Edition announced on TAG Heuer Instagram page: February 22, 2018. The watch already sold out.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BfgUDUIFd9K/
     
  13. abrod520

    abrod520 Feb 22, 2018

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    What I meant is that nobody seems to still be waiting for the initial delivery at this point - and then there are some units, like yours, that have been delivered with quality issues. That sucks and Omega certainly hasn't had the greatest track record with regard to delivery timeframes lately, but those tend to affect the limited edition watches that are the furthest from the standard model. Notably the Silver Snoopy and its "space dust" caseback... but I wouldn't extrapolate those issues to the rest of their lineup.

    Right, but all still re-mixes of off-the-shelf parts. No new parts, just paint. Again, not trying to put it down, but let's be honest with each other.

    I see what you're saying, that wasn't what I was referring to.
     
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  14. Hubert

    Hubert Feb 22, 2018

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    Sure, we get what you're saying, but technically speaking the strap is indeed a "new" part. The presentation box is also "new"; no other watch shares the dividing compartment and the finish. The closest was the 40th Anniversary Monaco, but no where near this nice. In any case, your point is well taken.
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  15. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Feb 22, 2018

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    People say TAG make too many special editions, but Omega... man they take the biscuit. First Man on the Moon, Last Man on the Moon, Dark Side of the Moon, Grey Side of the Moon, White Side of the Moon, The Man in the Moon, Brown Side of the Moon, Apollo and Dionysus on the Moon, Shine on Harvey Moon... what a pity they came to party too late to make a Moonraker tie in!

    Interesting fact, who was on the board of Omega when they decided to 'BUY' the James Bond watch sponsorship deal?

    Jean Claude Biver.
     
  16. Hubert

    Hubert Feb 22, 2018

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    He set the precedent and trend. Can't blame them for sticking to a formula that works, right? ;)
     
  17. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Feb 22, 2018

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    My 2 cents: I really don’t care how quickly it sold out. I planned on it not selling out yesterday, but of course I had hoped that it would by the time it’s ready to be sent in late March. Calibre 11 is not Hodinkee...so I never expected to move units as fast as they do.

    In addition, while Heuer and TAG Heuer collectors know of Jo Siffert, general watch lovers probably know him far less.

    Yes, I could have changed a lot more- ceramic bezel? Revised case finishing? All possible...but then we’d be looking at prices closer to the Ronnie Peterson Carrera re-edition, i.e. much closer to US$10k. How many people would buy a $10k Autavia?

    The idea for this came from me, not from TAG Heuer- and there is a final key difference. In this case, TAG Heuer were clear that this was my project. I had to buy them watches from them. I had to take care of the logistics for distribution, the sales and the marketing. They were happy to “support” through social..but they would not drive the marketing. Now think about Speedy Tuesday- Omega owned the watch and controlled the distribution and marketing- RJ didn’t buy the watches.

    In short, Omega drove Speedy Tuesday (I’m not underplaying Fratello and RJ’s role- he blazed the trail and deserves huge kudos), whereas Calibre 11 drove the Siffert..not TAG Heuer.
     
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  18. TonyStark

    TonyStark Feb 22, 2018

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    This is the key point for me. I was geared up to see a siffert based on the Peterson reedition that I could salivate over but couldn't afford/justify. So you got it right for me. Well done.
     
  19. Hubert

    Hubert Feb 22, 2018

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    I think these guys would approve. #DerekBell #McQueen #JoSiffert
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  20. TonyStark

    TonyStark Feb 22, 2018

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    Are you going to start selling the overalls too?
     
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