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2019 TAG Heuer Monaco with Heuer-02 movement (CBL2111)

  1. Aquagraph

    Aquagraph Sep 6, 2020

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    Interesting read David, I never knew the Calibre 17 was used in the Monaco. I can see what you mean about the third subdial, I don't mind it personally, but adding another register would have made them look more individual - but on the other hand, I guess they wanted to make it look as much like the watch that 'everybody' wants as possible.
     
  2. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Sep 6, 2020

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    Yes- agree. Like you, I don’t dislike the new design, but I’d prefer three white registers... that would give the watch a whole new look
     
  3. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Sep 6, 2020

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    The Calibre 17s were 3 register and never worked from an aesthetic point of view, IMO.
     
  4. kappa_md

    kappa_md Sep 6, 2020

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    Great article DC! It’s interesting to see that although the latest TAG Heuer Monaco Calibre H02 is thicker owing to the new movement, it has acheived a lighter weight! I know it might not really be a big difference since we are talking “grams” here but was a bit of a surprise! :eek:

    I like that they have retained the bright mettalic blue sunburst dial for the modern Monaco design compared to the flat blue for the vintage inspired Monaco. It still retains an identity of its own! :cool:

    I’ve worn my TAG Heuer Monaco a fair number of times and it really is an “eye-catcher”! Friends who are not even watch enthusiasts can easily spot and comment on the watch. It’s a watch you want to wear when you want others to see it! Great conversation starter piece and the name “Monaco” evokes glamour, success & prestige! Even watch enthusiasts will notice you have certain “taste” ;)

    Probably a 3-subdial Monaco can be on the works for a future Re-Edition now that the Monaco uses Calibre H02. I think the issue with Calibre H01 was mainly because of the layout of the subdials. But I do believe it still has a place in TAG Heuer’s line-up. :thumbsup:
     
  5. imagwai

    imagwai Sep 6, 2020

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    Great article. This is ridiculous, though:
    • 2003 Monaco Calibre 17 38mm- weight: 82g; thickness 13.1mm
    • 2009 Monaco Calibre 11 40th Anniversary 38mm- 93g; 14.1mm
    • 2019 Monaco Calibre 11 50th Anniversary 39mm- 105g: 14.4mm
    • 2020 Monaco Heuer 02 39mm- 101g; 15.3mm
    An "improvement" would see a movement/case profile get thinner over time, this is completely the wrong way round.
     
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  6. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Sep 6, 2020

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    Good observation and you are not wrong!
     
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  7. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Sep 6, 2020

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    Two and three register. All 1997-2009 Monacos used the Calibre 17
     
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  8. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Sep 6, 2020

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    Ah, of course they did. I even have a Calibre 17, 2 register on my watch list on Chrono24 - doh!
     
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  9. Jim Dollares

    Jim Dollares Sep 6, 2020

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    Have to agree with this, unfortunate that most manufacturers dont aim to achieve thinner watches
     
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  10. imagwai

    imagwai Sep 6, 2020

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    Exactly. It's generally accepted that to make a movement thinner, there's more complex engineering and finer craftsmanship involved. But I guess with the trend towards watches as fashion accessories, practicality takes a back seat. Certainly there are some people that want their watch to stand out, but there's wrist presence, and then there's hockey puck.
     
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  11. Mr_Orange

    Mr_Orange Sep 6, 2020

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    Great analogy!
     
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  12. Pitfitter446

    Pitfitter446 Sep 6, 2020

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    Don’t think I'd ever notice 4 grams difference, 40 maybe, or 0.9 mm.
     
  13. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Sep 6, 2020

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    TAG Heuer should create a vintage inspired Limited Edition H02 Monaco 3 register re-edition or homage watch. I'd love something like this! ::love::
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  14. Mspeedster

    Mspeedster Sep 6, 2020

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    Reminds me of when the Porsche 911 turned 50.
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  15. Calibre11

    Calibre11 Editor of Calibre11.com Staff Member Sep 6, 2020

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    The only defence I would make is that:
    1. Watch collectors tend to like smaller watches (we know what the original was like)
    2. Watch buyers tend to like larger watches

    I've asked TAG Heuer this many times (and other brands when I was doing work with Time+Tide), and their answer is consistent: because larger cases is what buyers want. :oops:
     
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  16. kappa_md

    kappa_md Sep 7, 2020

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    Watch buying from watch collectors don’t make the bulk of the market. Watch buying from the general people gives the $$$ It’s just simple supply & demand. Similar to where car enthusiasts like stick shift in sports cars (manual transmission) but the demand doesn’t justify the cost so car manufacturers try to make up with surprisingly fast automatic transmissions.

    Going back, I would like to thank TAG Heuer for exploring its long motorsports heritage. And the reason why I’ve kept myself true to TAG Heuer. :thumbsup:
     
  17. kappa_md

    kappa_md Sep 7, 2020

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    This made me laugh :D Everything is getting bigger. The people, the watches and the cars. Everything should still be proportionate somehow :p
     
  18. Hubert

    Hubert Sep 7, 2020

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    I'd buy that!
     
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